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Getting informed on informed consent

May 9, 2012/4 Comments/in Uncategorized /by Kelsey Hazzard

I usually don’t respond to Amanda Marcotte’s ridiculous abortion rants, but this time I couldn’t resist.


Marcotte lashes out against laws that mandate informed consent for abortion, claiming that such laws are based on a misogynist assumption that women are “too stupid to understand abortion.”  In her words: 

Sadly, however, old-fashioned bigotry trumps common sense all the time, which is why Republican legislatures across the country are passing laws—mandatory ultrasounds, anti-choice lectures, and waiting periods—based on the premise that women who are seeking abortions are literally too stupid to understand that doing this means they don’t get to have a baby in the next six to nine months.

And again:

Researchers looked at the precounseling needs assessment of over 5,000 women in abortion clinics and found that, in direct contrast with the assumptions of these anti-abortion restrictions, women seeking abortion did know what abortion is and what the results (a baby) would be if they didn’t get one.

Unborn baby at seven and a half
weeks; abortions are common at
this stage of pregnancy

Seriously?  Show me one pro-lifer who thinks women don’t realize that abortion prevents birth.  It’s common knowledge that fetuses, left to live, become newborns.  






The topics covered by informed consent laws, by contrast, are not common knowledge.  Many women (and men) are uninformed about the current level of development of their embryos or fetuses.  They may not know that the heartbeat begins three weeks and a day after fertilization, or that major organ systems are in place by week eight, or that fingerprints appear at week ten.  And why should they? Unless they’re embryologists or physicians, a thorough understanding of prenatal development probably isn’t pertinent to their everyday lives. That doesn’t make them stupid.


Minnesota’s Women’s Right to Know Act is fairly typical legislation; it covers prenatal development, abortion methods and their associated medical risks, and the legal responsibilities of Minnesota fathers.  Nowhere does it assume that women are unaware that deciding against abortion will cause them to give birth.  (Quite the opposite, in fact; the pamphlet devotes considerable attention to the resources which are available to low-income mothers in the Minnesota.)


Informed consent laws do not operate on the assumption that women are stupid.  They do, however, assume that abortion facilities cannot be trusted to provide full and accurate information in the absence of legislation.  I’m perfectly fine with that assumption.  Planned Parenthood abortion centers have been caught on tape distributing incredible lies about prenatal development; one counselor even went so far as to claim that an eight-week-old fetus has “no arms, no legs, no heart, no head, no brain.”  


In short, women aren’t too stupid to understand abortion– but abortion facilities are too greedy to explain it properly.

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4 replies
  1. PennieS
    PennieS says:
    May 9, 2012 at 1:45 am

    I agree here 100%. Women need to understand that their unborn child is a child with arms, legs, and a heartbeat very early in the pregnancy. Not a blob of tissue that miraculously turns into a baby months and months down the road. The heart is beating even before a woman would realize that she was pregnant! I don't understand those fighting to prevent informed consent? I don't understand anyone who thinks killing babies is acceptable.

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  2. Gary
    Gary says:
    May 9, 2012 at 2:15 am

    Expecting PP to be honest about fetal development is like expecting the tobacco industry to be honest about whether or not smoking is linked to lung cancer.

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  3. Painis oLeary
    Painis oLeary says:
    May 9, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Informed consent laws should require places that do not provide abortion services, like Crisis Pregnancy Centers, state that they do not provide abortion services before accepting women.

    After all, the state cannot trust them not to lie to women about thier real options.

    It's only fair.

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    • Anonymous
      Anonymous says:
      May 16, 2012 at 2:38 am

      For one, CPCS are, by and large, not medical centers and are not performing life-altering procedures. So the "necessity" for such legislation is, by contrast, sorely lacking.
      Secondly, most if not all CPCs DO tell women that, up front. I know all the CPCs in my hometown do so religiously (like the pun? lol).
      Do your research already.

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