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RH Alternate Reality strikes again

August 27, 2011/4 Comments/in Uncategorized /by Kelsey Hazzard

Two items from RH Reality Check today. First, I’m in a minor comment war over this post about the pro-life view on ectopic pregnancy. Pro-lifers generally don’t even think of ectopic pregnancy treatment as being an abortion at all. If an unborn baby is doomed to die, and the mother is at risk if the baby’s body is not removed, what moral objection could there possibly be?

Physicians for Life basically agrees with that assessment. However, they point out that some ectopic pregnancies resolve on their own, and so women who are not facing an immediate threat may want to take a “wait and see” approach to possibly avoid surgery. They also point out that it is a very bad idea to just reflexively use methotrexate, without checking to see if there is a twin correctly implanted in the uterus:

One patient was diagnosed with a tubal ectopic pregnancy by her obstetrician, and he informed her that they were fortunate to have made the diagnosis early and that she should have a methotrexate abortion. The patient was pro-life, and did not want to take the medicine, but the physician insisted. The baby was not going to survive, he argued, and a chemical abortion now could prevent the need for a surgical procedure later. The chemical abortion would lessen her chances of a rupture of her fallopian tube and subsequent life-threatening hemorrhage. The chemical abortion was also better at preserving future fertility than surgical removal of the ectopic pregnancy later. Feeling like she had no other reasonable alternative, she took the methotrexate.

However, there was a complication. Two weeks later, she still had vaginal bleeding and pelvic discomfort. A repeat ultrasound confirmed the physician’s worst fears: his patient was pregnant with twins – one in the fallopian tube, and one in the uterus! He missed the uterine pregnancy in his ultrasound examination, and that baby was dying from his prescription.

Holding off surgery and watchful waiting in this case might have resulted in spontaneous resolution of the tubal pregnancy or would have required surgical removal of the tubal pregnancy when the embryo was likely to be dead, but in both cases the uterine pregnancy would probably have survived. Unfortunately, the chemical abortion killed both babies, much to the dismay of this young pro-life woman.

The RH Reality Check article finds Physicians for Life’s position to be completely unreasonable. The article was passed around the #prochoice echo chamber on twitter as “proof [that] #prolife is about #misogyny.” When of course, the opposite is true: these pro-life physicians are trying to do whatever is best for the patient’s particular circumstances. So it goes.

The second RH Reality Check post I’d like to bring to your attention is a guide to instilling pro-abortion beliefs in your toddler.

Let me just allow that to sink in for a moment.

SPL’s facebook fans had some great responses. Starting with Nick:

Wait what? You mean using obscure words like “discontinue” or “terminate” gives us less understanding about what abortion truly is? Gee, you don’t say?

Monica:

“… she was about as disgusted by the anti-choice position as you could ever expect a pre-schooler to be.”

Well I, for one, am shocked that a pre-schooler would take the same side as her parent on something she has no way of comprehending.

And finally Jen:

I personally am amused at the “fetus is no bigger than an orange” statement. So, I ask, “what exactly is going on with that orange, anatomically, anyway?”

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4 replies
  1. Jen R
    Jen R says:
    August 27, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    "The article was passed around the #prochoice echo chamber on twitter as "proof [that] #prolife is about #misogyny.""

    Wait, so insisting that a woman take a medication that she doesn't want to take isn't misogynistic, but managing her pregnancy so that she has a chance of delivering the one child she can deliver — as per her wishes — is?

    The abortion debate is just so STUPID sometimes.

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  2. Jameson Graber
    Jameson Graber says:
    August 28, 2011 at 12:02 am

    "When these children get older and are presented with an election ballot, they won't be thinking of nameless, faceless women losing the right to choose if they check the wrong box. They will think of the women they know, who once needed that right, and they will vote to keep it legal."

    Yet another summary of the major difficulty facing the pro-life movement: by default, it is easier for us to be more concerned about the struggles of people we see and know, rather than the injustice done to invisible children. How much more difficult is it when people indoctrinate their children with pro-abortion rhetoric!

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  3. GodslittleRN
    GodslittleRN says:
    November 28, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Hi my name is Heather,
    I have been very shocked and hurt by the responds that removing an ectopic pregnancy is murder. This past thanksgiving I was rushed in to emergency surgery due to an ectopic pregnancy. I knew I was pregnant about 8 weeks. My husband and I were very excited. This would be baby number 2. We have a hard time getting pregnant. This time it only took a year and a half. Wednesday before thanksgiving I went to the er with bleeding, it looked like I had miscarage. They sent me home I had no pain and the bleeding had stopped. On thanksgiving I started with sever pain, I was rushed back to the er. There they found I had internal bleeding from an ectopic pregnancy. I was immediately taken to the O.R. In the surgery they were able to stop the bleeding remove the pregnancy and repair the tube. I was beyond devastated that we lost the baby. In my grief I was looking for support, and what I found was a lot of rebuke for what had happen. I'm very pro life and at any time I thought that this baby could have been save I would have. I'm very thankful for my family they have been very supportive and my pastor. This is one of the site I found that have been kind in the way they approach this topic. I'm very thankful for that.

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  4. Kelsey
    Kelsey says:
    November 28, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing your story; I'm glad that SPL is a safe space for you. I actually lost a sibling to ectopic pregnancy many years ago, so this issue is very important to me.

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