Nancy Pelosi’s dubious “smackdown”
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| Congresswoman Pelosi |
[Today’s guest post is by JoAnna Wahlund.]
Maybe someone out there can explain this, because I am really confused.
At one point, a CNS news reporter asked, “In reference to
funding for Planned Parenthood: Is an unborn baby with a human heart and a
human liver a human being?”
funding for Planned Parenthood: Is an unborn baby with a human heart and a
human liver a human being?”
Pelosi responded: “Why don’t you take your ideological
questions—I don’t, I don’t have—”
questions—I don’t, I don’t have—”
Point of Confusion #1:
“Ideological” is
defined as “an adjective that describes political, cultural, or religious
beliefs.” The question “Is an unborn baby with a human heart and a human liver
a human being?” isn’t a question about political, cultural, or religious
beliefs. It’s a question regarding scientific fact. So why does Pelosi call it
an ideological question?
“Ideological” is
defined as “an adjective that describes political, cultural, or religious
beliefs.” The question “Is an unborn baby with a human heart and a human liver
a human being?” isn’t a question about political, cultural, or religious
beliefs. It’s a question regarding scientific fact. So why does Pelosi call it
an ideological question?
In fact, the reporter follows up with yet another scientific
(not ideological) question. “If it’s not a human being, what species is it?”
(not ideological) question. “If it’s not a human being, what species is it?”
Pelosi: “No, listen, I want to say something to you. I don’t
know who you are…”
know who you are…”
Point of Confusion #2:
So what? How does his identity change his questions or make them less relevant?
So what? How does his identity change his questions or make them less relevant?
Pelosi: “…I am a devout practicing Catholic, a mother of
five children. When my baby was born, my fifth child, my oldest child was six
years old.”
five children. When my baby was born, my fifth child, my oldest child was six
years old.”
Point of Confusion #3:
How is that relevant? What does this have to do with the scientific question as
to whether or not an unborn baby with a human heart and a human liver is a
human being?
How is that relevant? What does this have to do with the scientific question as
to whether or not an unborn baby with a human heart and a human liver is a
human being?
Pelosi: “I think I know more about this subject than you,
with all due respect.”
with all due respect.”
Point of Confusion #4:
How does her response prove that she “knows more about this subject” than the
reporter? He asked her a scientific question and she responded with, “I’m a
Catholic with five kids, so I know more about this than you.” Um, what? That
makes no sense. As Secular Pro-Life’s
very existence proves, you don’t have to be a Catholic, Christian, or theist to
know that abortion is wrong (and sadly, some Catholics, like Pelosi, don’t know
or won’t acknowledge that abortion is wrong). Abortion is first and foremost a
human rights issue, not solely a religious issue.
How does her response prove that she “knows more about this subject” than the
reporter? He asked her a scientific question and she responded with, “I’m a
Catholic with five kids, so I know more about this than you.” Um, what? That
makes no sense. As Secular Pro-Life’s
very existence proves, you don’t have to be a Catholic, Christian, or theist to
know that abortion is wrong (and sadly, some Catholics, like Pelosi, don’t know
or won’t acknowledge that abortion is wrong). Abortion is first and foremost a
human rights issue, not solely a religious issue.
Moreover, I happen to be a “devout practicing Catholic” myself. Unlike Pelosi, I actually believe and
practice what the Catholic Church teaches
regarding abortion, a teaching of which Pelosi, who claims to be both
“devout” and “practicing,” is ignorant.
practice what the Catholic Church teaches
regarding abortion, a teaching of which Pelosi, who claims to be both
“devout” and “practicing,” is ignorant.
In fact, I’m a mother of nine
children (five born, one unborn, three lost to miscarriage). My oldest is 10,
and will be 11 when his/her youngest sibling will arrive. By Pelosi’s logic, I
actually know more than she does
about this subject. In fact, I can answer the reporter’s question with actual science:
children (five born, one unborn, three lost to miscarriage). My oldest is 10,
and will be 11 when his/her youngest sibling will arrive. By Pelosi’s logic, I
actually know more than she does
about this subject. In fact, I can answer the reporter’s question with actual science:
It is possible to give ‘human being’ a precise meaning. We
can use it as equivalent to ‘member of the species Homo sapiens’. Whether a
being is a member of a given species is something that can be determined
scientifically, by an examination of the nature of the chromosomes in the cells
of living organisms. In this sense there is no doubt that from the first
moments of its existence an embryo conceived from human sperm and eggs is a
human being.
~ [emphatically pro-choice] Dr. Peter Singer, Practical Ethics, 2nd ed. (Cambridge:
Cambridge University Press, 1993, 2008), 85-86.
Was that so hard?
Pelosi: “And I do not intend to respond to your questions, which have no basis in what public policy is that we do here.”
Point of Confusion #5: So Pelosi believes that matters of science have no basis in public policy? If so, why
does the government have an Office of Science and
Technology Policy? Would she say that science has no basis in public policy
regarding climate change? Is she learning the “science” of abortion from Bill
Nye instead of actual scientists?
does the government have an Office of Science and
Technology Policy? Would she say that science has no basis in public policy
regarding climate change? Is she learning the “science” of abortion from Bill
Nye instead of actual scientists?
Point of Confusion #6:
Let’s take a look a sampling of headlines following this briefing:
Let’s take a look a sampling of headlines following this briefing:
WATCH Nancy Pelosi
Put A Right-Wing Reporter In His Place For Pestering Her With Abortion
Questions – liberalamerica.org
Put A Right-Wing Reporter In His Place For Pestering Her With Abortion
Questions – liberalamerica.org
Let me get this straight: Nancy Pelosi responded to a reporter’s
scientific questions by calling them “ideological,” claimed she knows more than
he does by virtue of being Catholic with five kids, and stating that science
has no basis in public policy… and that’s a “smackdown”? She “crushed” and
“shut down” the reporter with that response?
scientific questions by calling them “ideological,” claimed she knows more than
he does by virtue of being Catholic with five kids, and stating that science
has no basis in public policy… and that’s a “smackdown”? She “crushed” and
“shut down” the reporter with that response?
Were we watching the same briefing?
I saw a dishonest politician engage in egregious non
sequiturs and numerous logical fallacies to avoid answering a question that she
knows she can’t answer without also acknowledging that she supports and
champions the deliberate killing of innocent human beings (after all, abortion
is her “sacred
ground”).
sequiturs and numerous logical fallacies to avoid answering a question that she
knows she can’t answer without also acknowledging that she supports and
champions the deliberate killing of innocent human beings (after all, abortion
is her “sacred
ground”).
Last time I checked, that wasn’t a “smackdown.” That was a
colossal embarrassment and a shocking display of ignorance. I know this not
because I’m a Catholic mother of many children, but because I’m a rational
human being with rudimentary skills of logic and reason.
colossal embarrassment and a shocking display of ignorance. I know this not
because I’m a Catholic mother of many children, but because I’m a rational
human being with rudimentary skills of logic and reason.
Maybe I should use Pelosi’s criteria and try to find a
Catholic mom with even more children
to explain this lack of logic to me. Oh wait, this
one opposes abortion. So does this
one. Hmmm. In fact, all Catholic moms of my acquaintance with 5+ kids are
pro-life. According to the Gospel of Nancy, we all know more than she does about abortion. Perhaps she’d like to
fly us down to Capitol Hill so we can explain things to her?
Catholic mom with even more children
to explain this lack of logic to me. Oh wait, this
one opposes abortion. So does this
one. Hmmm. In fact, all Catholic moms of my acquaintance with 5+ kids are
pro-life. According to the Gospel of Nancy, we all know more than she does about abortion. Perhaps she’d like to
fly us down to Capitol Hill so we can explain things to her?
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